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The New Bloomberg Poll on the Budget: Confusion Reigns

09 Mar 2011
Posted by Stan Collender

Click on the logo below to see the poll I teased about in a post yesterday. It's from Bloomberg and, contrary to what House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) has been saying the American people want, it shows an electorate that is uninformed and anything but unified or certain when it comes to the budget.

According to the story by Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Heidi Przybyla, there's much in this poll that bears reviewing and it's definitely worth a few minutes of your time to read the whole thing, but here's the money quote that provides a sense of why this year's budget debate is so difficult to handicap:

Almost 8 in 10 people say Republicans and Democrats should reach a compromise on a plan to reduce the federal budget deficit to keep the government running, a Bloomberg National Poll shows. At the same time, lopsided margins oppose cuts to Medicare, education, environmental protection, medical research and community-renewal programs.

Note that the areas where "lopsided margins" oppose cuts are the same ones that the GOP has already proposed or is promising to cut.  Add another result from the poll -- that "repealing the Bush-era tax cuts for households earning more than $250,000 a year" is supported by a majority even though the GOP insisted last year that they be extended -- and you get the same continuing picture that, in spite of the public rhetoric, is absolutely undeniable: "Reducing the deficit" is very popular but almost all of the changes that would actually reduce the deficit are exceedingly unpopular.

The other most instructive aspect of the poll, especially because the end of current two-week continuing resolution is just barely a week away, is the wide disparity between Republicans and Democrats in the poll.

Only 6 percent of Democrats say the issue of spending cuts is important enough to warrant a shutdown, compared with 92 percent who said they want to avoid that; 29 percent of Republicans say deep reductions need to be made even if it means closing down the government for a time, while 69 percent say that should be avoided. Just over 7 of 10 independents say they want compromise.

And this:

Forty-six percent of Republicans and 47 percent of Tea Party supporters call the deficit and government spending the most important issue facing the country, compared with 16 percent of Democrats, for whom jobs ranks first. Almost 7 in 10 Republicans and Tea Party backers say spending is the more important priority over jobs, while 77 percent of Democrats choose job creation over the deficit. Jobs are the higher priority for independents, by a margin of 55 percent to 42 percent -- almost identical to respondents overall.

This is pretty much how the debate on Capitol Hill has been playing out.  The GOP is playing to its base; the Democrats are playing to the independents.  Until that changes, a compromise will be difficult.

Finally, as I noted yesterday, only one area of the budget has a majority.  Let's say it together and in unison: foreign aid.

Is there a link to the actual

Is there a link to the actual poll?


Isn't the link the Bloomberg

Isn't the link the Bloomberg logo


"...it shows an electorate that is uninformed"

Then we get the leadership we deserve and all the consequences.

Don't worry, I'm sure another two week CR will be put in place after this one so Republicans can whine about NPR spending and Dems can whine about sponsoring Army NASCAR teams.

Judging by the same old, tired field of opposition candidates running for president in 2012, I have to wonder: "Is this really the best our country has to offer? Maybe our decline is well deserved..."


in the bloomberg article to

in the bloomberg article to the left of the page there is a link that opens the actual poll results


Poll driven leadership

Should policy makers pay any attention to these polls? The answer is "no" for AT LEAST two reasons.

First, people are deeply uninformed about budgetary matters, and asking whether they support cutting programs in a vaccum (with no explanation of the alternatives in terms of higher taxes now or in the future) isn't illuminating.

Next, people tell pollsters what they think they want to hear. No one's going to come clean about wanting to cut programs for the poor.

Here's a poll for you. It was taken in early November. Candidates who pledged to cut spending were elected, those who didn't weren't.

Now THAT's a poll worth studying.


Thanks for the note of levity re foreign aid....

Aid per se is a drop in the bucket, so immediate laughter ensued, particularly with the let's say it together and in unison lead up.

Of course, we'd rather support American farmers over here and ship the grain over to Africa or whereever, which would be (a) a lot cheaper (b) lead to jobs and building of self-sustainment over there. Our favorite forms of foreign aid seem to be (a) wars (b) selling military equipment and I'd bet sometimes even loaning money to buy it! Yup... and how many times did Christ talk about helping the poor in the gospels... and in the Talmud and Old Testament.... Yup.... while our buddies in China are actually using their money to connect with the rest of the world, building and buying things, (when they're not cornering the market on land and resources of course).




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